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>> HELLO, WELCOME TO INSIDE

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INDIANA BUSINESS, I'M GERRY

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DICK.

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WE HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL

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PLANNED FOR THIS WEEK'S SHOW IN

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HONOR OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.

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I'M GOING TO OPEN THE SHOW AS

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USUAL, BUT THEN WE'LL HAVE

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FEMALE GUEST HOSTS FOR EACH OF

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OUR SEGMENTS AS WE LOOK AT THE

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INFLUENTIAL INDIANA WOMEN.

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WE BEGIN WITH THE 50TH

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ANNIVERSARY OF TITLE IX. THE

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STATE OF SPORTS COULD HAVE A

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DIFFERENT LOOK TODAY ON THE

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FIELD OR COURT OR IN THE FRONT

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OFFICE... HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR

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TITLE IX... THE FEDERAL CIVIL

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RIGHTS LAW THAT PROHIBITS

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DISCRIMINATION ON THE BASIS OF

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SEX IN EDUCATION PROGRAMS AND

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ACTIVITIES.

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IT WAS INTRODUCED TO CONGRESS BY

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INDIANA'S OWN SENATOR BIRCH BAYH

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AND SIGNED INTO LAW BY PRESIDENT

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RICHARD NIXON IN 1972.

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WITH MORE ON HOW TITLE IX HAS

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IMPACTED HER CAREER AND

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ACCELERATED CHANGE IN WOMEN'S

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ATHLETICS... I'M PLEASED TO

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WELCOME PURDUE UNIVERSITY

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ATHLETICS SENIOR ASSOCIATE

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ATHLETICS DIRECTOR... NANCY

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CROSS.

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NANCY, AS ALWAYS, WELCOME.

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>> THANK YOU.

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>> TITLE 9 DOESN'T SEEM 50

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YEARS.

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WHAT A MILESTONE AND A LANDMARK.

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AS YOU LOOK AT TITLE 9, THE

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IMPACTS HAVE BEEN SO WIDESPREAD

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AND SO CONSEQUENTIAL.

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WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THE IMPACT

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OVER THESE 50 YEARS AND WHAT

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TITLE 9 HAS DONE?

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>> WELL, JUST AS YOU SAID, IT'S

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BEEN SO INCREDIBLY SIGNIFICANT.

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WE ALWAYS TRY TO STRESS WITH OUR

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STUDENT ATHLETES THAT THIS ISN'T

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JUST ABOUT WOMEN'S ATHLETICS.

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I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN THE MOST

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VISIBLE, PROBABLY THE FRONT

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PORCH FOR TITLE NINE IN TERMS OF

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WHERE THEY WERE AND ARE NOW.

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BUT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE

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BENEFITTED, MEN AND WOMEN.

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AND WHEN I TALK TO CLASSES AT

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PURDUE, I ALWAYS COMMENT THAT WE

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PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE A LOT OF

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OUR MALE BASKETBALL COACHES OR

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VOLLEYBALL COACHES COACHING

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WOMEN'S TEAMS IF THE SALARIES

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WEREN'T COMMENSURATE, THEY HAD

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TO DRIVE A VAN, PEANUT BUTTER

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SANDWICHES, THE WAY WE STARTED

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OUT.

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>> IT IS REALLY ABOUT EDUCATION.

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>> IT IS, ABSOLUTELY.

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WHEN WE CELEBRATED THE 40th

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ANNIVERSARY AT PURDUE A FEW

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YEARS AGO IT WAS AN

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ALL-UNIVERSITY CELEBRATION, NOT

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JUST ABOUT ATHLETICS.

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>> AS YOU REFLECT, HOW HAS TITLE

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NINE IMPACTED YOU?

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>> IN HIGH SCHOOL, I PLAYED A

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NUMBER OF SPORTS, AND IN

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REALITY, IT REALLY HADN'T

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IMPACTED IT YET.

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BECAUSE I GRADUATED IN '73.

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SO '71 THROUGH '73 IT HAD NOT.

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WHEN I GOT IN COLLEGE, I GREW UP

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ON THE EAST COAST, PROBABLY

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OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG WOMEN

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AND GIRLS WERE A LITTLE BIT MORE

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ESTABLISHED THAN IN THE MIDWEST.

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SO WHEN I GOT TO COLLEGE, AND

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THEN TO GRADUATE SCHOOL AT

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PURDUE, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED

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AT HOW HARD THEY HAD TO FIGHT

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FOR EVERYTHING.

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I THINK TITLE NINE, WHEN IT WAS

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PASSED, THERE WERE SO MANY

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PEOPLE THAT EMBRACED IT, BECAUSE

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THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW WAS THAT

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YOU WERE GOING TO TREAT PEOPLE

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EQUALLY, WOMEN EQUALLY, WEREN'T

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GOING TO DISCRIMINATE.

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AND THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO DID

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THINGS BECAUSE IT WAS THE LAW.

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IF YOU'RE DOING IT ONLY BECAUSE

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IT IS BECAUSE OF THE LAW, YOU

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STILL HAVE AN UPHILL BATTLE.

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>> TITLE NINE AUTHOR WAS THEN

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SENATOR BIRCH BAYH.

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HIS SON EVAN IS MY GUEST NEXT

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WEEK ON THE BUSINESS AND BEYOND

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PODCAST.

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I ASKED HIM ABOUT HIS DAD'S

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TITLE NINE LEGISLATION.

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HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.

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>> EVAN BAYH: I WILL

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OCCASIONALLY HAVE WOMEN,

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ATHLETIC DIRECTORS OR COACHES

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COME UP TO ME AND SAY THAT, YOU

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KNOW, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THE

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OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY'VE HAD

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THEIR LIFE IF THAT HADN'T OPENED

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UP THE DOORS FOR THEM TO BE

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ATHLETES AND, AND THAT SORT OF

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THING. SO YEAH, THAT'S A BIG

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PART OF HIS LEGACY.

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>> YEAH, EVAN WAS REALLY PROUD

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OF THAT FACT.

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AND WE WERE TALKING OFF CAMERA

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THAT BIRCH BAYH'S KIND OF THE

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IMPETUS TO DO THIS DEALT WITH

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WHO WOULD BECOME HIS WIFE, IN

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DISCRIMINATION.

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>> AGAIN, I HEARD THIS THIRD

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STORY, WE USED TO DO A LOT OF

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RESEARCH ON TITLE NINE.

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WE HEARD HIM TALK ABOUT THE FACT

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THAT WHEN HE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL,

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HE HAD GONE IN THE SUMMER TO

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SOME CAMP, AND I DON'T KNOW IF

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IT WAS A NATIONAL DEBATE THING,

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HE MET HIS FUTURE WIFE.

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AND THERE WAS TALK ABOUT BOTH OF

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THEM APPLYING TO THE UNIVERSITY

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OF VIRGINIA.

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AND HE APPLIED, OBVIOUSLY GOT

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ACCEPTED.

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AND THEN HIS WIFE -- HIS FUTURE

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WIFE GOT A LETTER SAYING SORRY,

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AS A FEMALE, YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN

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APPLY.

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AND THAT ACTUALLY SHOCKED AND

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STAYED WITH BIRCH SO LONG THAT

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HIS POINT WAS WHY WOULD YOU

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DISCOUNT 50% OF THE POPULATION,

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HE WAS IMPRESSED WITH HOW BRIGHT

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AND TALENTED SHE WAS, AND TO

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THINK THAT SHE WASN'T GOING TO

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GET THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES TO

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EVEN APPLY TO UNIVERSITY.

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>> SO MUCH PROGRESS HAS BEEN

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MADE IN THESE 50 YEARS.

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YET WE SEE EXAMPLES, WE WERE

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TALKING ABOUT THAT A MOMENT AGO

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LAST YEAR AT THE WOMEN'S FINAL

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FOUR IN SAN ANTONIO, AND THE

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DISPARITY BETWEEN THE WORKOUT

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FACILITIES FOR THE WOMEN VERSUS

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THE MEN.

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>> RIGHT.

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PEOPLE ALWAYS ASK ME WHAT THE

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LITMUS TEST IS.

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AND I THINK WHEN YOU MAKE

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DECISIONS THAT ARE BASED ON WHAT

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IS BEST FOR A STUDENT ATHLETE,

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THEN YOU'VE ARRIVED, IF YOU'RE

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MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT IS

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BEST FOR ONE PROGRAM VERSUS

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ANOTHER, YOU'VE ALREADY

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DISCRIMINATED.

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AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE

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HAVE COME SO INCREDIBLY FAR IN

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50 YEARS, I THINK LAST YEAR WAS

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JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WE'RE

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NOT QUITE THERE YET.

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THE THING THAT BOTHERED ME MOST,

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HAD IT EVEN HAPPENED BEFORE WE

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GOT TO SAN ANTONIO, THE DAY OF

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THE ANNOUNCEMENT, THAT YOU MADE

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A HUGE DEAL WHAT THEY WERE GOING

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TO DO FOR THE MEN, IT WAS GREAT

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FOR INDIANAPOLIS, THE FACT THAT

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YOU WEREN'T MAKING A JOINT

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ANNOUNCEMENT MADE IT LOOK LIKE

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WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS FOR THE

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MEN HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THE

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WOMEN.

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>> AS YOU LOOK GOING FORWARD,

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WHAT IS THE NEXT IMPACT OF TITLE

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NINE, AREAS WHERE YOU SEE CAN BE

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IMPROVED OR ADVANCED AS YOU GO

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OVER THE NEXT NUMBER OF YEARS?

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>> AGAIN, I THINK WHEN EVERYBODY

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AT THE TABLE HAS A VOICE, AND

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EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE IS MAKING

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DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT ARE BEST

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FOR THE STUDENT ATHLETES, AND

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NOT SEGMENTING THE MARKET, SO TO

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SPEAK, NOT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO

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DO THIS FOR THE MEN, SHOULDN'T

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MATTER MALE OR FEMALE SWIMMER,

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GOLFER, BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL,

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EVERY DECISION THAT'S MADE

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SHOULD BE MADE BASED ON WHAT'S

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BEST FOR THE STUDENT ATHLETES.

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THEN I ALWAYS LOOK FOR

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ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR

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WOMEN.

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AND WHEN PEOPLE HAVE AN OPENING,

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THEY'RE NOT GOING TO

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AUTOMATICALLY JUST ASSUME THAT

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ONE GENDER CAN HANDLE THAT

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SITUATION BETTER THAN ANOTHER.

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>> GREAT PERSPECTIVE.

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AS ALWAYS, ON TITLE NINE

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LEGISLATION, 50 YEARS, A BIG