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>> WITH TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA
LEAVING THE BIG 12 FOR THE
SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE, WHAT
COULD BE NEXT IN A COLLEGE

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SPORTS LANDSCAPE THAT IS ROILING
WHILE ITS OVERARCHING GOVERNING
BODY, THE NCAA, IS REELING?
BILL BENNER LOOKS FOR ANSWERS IN

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THIS WEEK'S INSIDE INDIANA
SPORTS. BILL.
>> GERRY, THANKS. FROM POWER
CONFERENCE SHAKEUPS TO NAME,

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IMAGE, LIKENESS FALLOUT TO A
DAMNING GENDER EQUITY REPORT TO
AN UPCOMING NCAA CONSTITUTIONAL
CONVENTION, COLLEGE SPORTS IS

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FACING UNPRECEDENTED UPHEAVAL.
AND JOINING US TODAY TO OFFER
HIS PERSPECTIVES ON WHERE IT ALL
MIGHT BE HEADED IS MIKE

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DECOURCY, THE HIGHLY RESPECTED
COLLEGE BASKETBALL ANALYST FOR
THE SPORTING NEWS, BIG TEN
NETWORK AND FOX. MIKE, WELCOME

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GOOD TO SEE YOU, MY FRIEND.
CRAZY, CRAZY TIMES. I'M OLD
SCHOOL, I STILL BELIEVE THE BIG
TEN SHOULD BE TEN -- I KNOW,

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REALLY OLD SCHOOL. WHERE MIGHT
ALL THIS LEAD STARTING WITH
TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA?
>> OBVIOUSLY IT COMPLETELY

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CHANGES THE COLLEGE FOOTBALL
LANDSCAPE. YOU HAVE ONE MASSIVE
POWER CONFERENCE, ONE VERY
POWERFUL CONFERENCE IN SO MANY

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WAYS IN THE BIG TEN. THEN
EVERYBODY ELSE SORT OF TRYING TO
FIND THEIR WAY, HOW CAN WE SORT
OF STAY CLOSE?

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I THINK IT IS A MISTAKE, A
MISTAKE THAT SOME LEAGUES HAVE
MADE. KEEP PACE SEC-WISE. THE
OTHER LEAGUES WILL HAVE TO FIND

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WAY, THE ACC AND PAC 12 TO MAKE
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. THEY'RE
NEVER GOING TO CATCH THE OTHER
TWO

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>> WHAT ARE THE POSSIBLE
IMPLICATIONS FOR THE BIG TEN, I
KNOW KANSAS WAS IMMEDIATELY
TOSSED OUT, A POSSIBLE

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CANDIDATE, IOWA STATE, ANOTHER,
WHAT COULD THIS LEAD TO FOR THE
BIG TEN?
>> I THINK IT IS INTERESTING

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THAT THE PAC 12 COMMISSIONER
SAID WHAT I THINK COULD APPLY TO
THE BIG TEN, WHICH IS THAT IT'S
A VERY PRESTIGIOUS CLUB WITH

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HIGH BARRIERS TO ENTRY. HONESTLY
OTHER THAN NOTRE DAME FROM A
STANDPOINT OF A REGIONAL FIT, I
DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYBODY OUT

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THERE THAT WOULD EMPOWER THE BIG
TEN. YOU DON'T MAKE DISTURB
DON'T WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS
LIKE THIS SO FUNDAMENTAL TO YOUR

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STRUCTURE TO JUST REACT TO
SOMEBODY ELSE'S WORK. YOU WANT
TO DO IT TO MAKE YOURSELF
STRONGER, I DON'T SEE THAT OUT

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THERE UNTIL NOTRE DAME COMES
KNOCKING AGAIN.
>> SPEAKING OF THE IRISH, MEMBER
OF THE ACC, NOT IN FOOTBALL, BUT

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PLAYING ACC PREDOMINANT
SCHEDULE, IS THERE ANY SCENARIO
WHERE THE IRISH COULD FINALLY
JOIN THE FOLD, THAT'S BEEN

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RUMORED FOREVER.
>> AND THEY CAME CLOSE 20 YEARS
OR SO AGO. I THINK THE FACT THAT
THEY DIDN'T GO THROUGH WITH IT

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CERTAINLY HAD HURT FEELINGS.
NOW, IF THEY CHANGE THEIR MINDS
NOW, NOBODY AT THE BIG TEN WOULD
HAVE ANY REASON TO SAY NO. THEY

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WOULD ABSOLUTELY EMBRACE THAT
IDEA. I JUST DON'T SEE IT. NOTRE
DAME HAS VALUED ITS INDEPENDENCE
SO GREATLY SO LONG THAT UNLESS A

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NEW GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND WE'RE
TALKED ABOUT MAYBE EVEN ANOTHER
DECADE REMOVED, MAYBE A NEW
GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAD

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DIFFERENT IDEAS COULD SEE THAT
CHANGING. I JUST CAN'T SEE IT
HAPPENING NOW.
>> NCAA PLANNING A CONVENTION IN

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NOVEMBER. WE MENTIONED THE
REALLY DAMMING GENDER EQUITY
REPORT, MEN'S FINAL FORKS
VIS-A-VIS WOMEN'S FINAL FORKS

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NAME IMAGE LIKENESS, MANY
ISSUES, INCLUDING CONFERENCE,
TUMULTUOUS CONFERENCE ACTIVITY.
WHAT DO THEY EXPECT TO

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ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS CONVENTION?
>> THE ONE THING IS TO TRY TO
KEEP THE NCAA INTACT. I THINK
THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

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WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE
THIS ORGANIZATION WORK FOR ALL
MEMBERS. AND I THINK THE THING
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS THAT IN

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ADDITION TO ALL THE FUNCTIONAL
ACTIVITIES THAT THEY TAKE CARE
OF AND DO SO WELL AT,
CHAMPIONSHIPS, THE NCAA MEN'S

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BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT IS A
BILLION DOLLARS FOR THREE WEEKS
OF BASKETBALL. THAT MONEY ISN'T
OUT THERE IN ANY OTHER FORM. IF

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THE POWER FIVE SAID WE'RE GOING
TO DO DO OUR OWN, IT IS NOT
WORTH THAT MUCH MONEY, EVEN A
PRORATED SHARE OF A SMALLER PIE,

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THAT NCAA TOURNAMENT MONEY IS A
MAGICAL FORMULA THAT THEY CAN'T
RECREATE. SO THERE IS INCENTIVE
TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO KEEP

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THIS THING TOGETHER.
>> MIKE, AS WE WRAP UP, NAME AND
IMAGE LIKENESS CAME OUT EARLY
JULY, THERE HASN'T BEEN AN

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OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF ATHLETES
TO CASH IN YET. HOW DO YOU SEE
THAT PLAYING OUT AS WE MOVE
ALONG?

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>> I THINK THE ONE THING ABOUT
IT IS THAT WE HAVE SEEN ATHLETES
IN BOTH FOOTBALL, WOMEN'S
BASKETBALL, MEN'S BASKETBALL,

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WE'VE SEEN THEM IN ALL THOSE
SPORTS THAT HAVE SHORTCUT THEIR
DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY FELT
LIKE THERE IS MONEY OUT THERE

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THAT I'M NOT MAKING NOW AND I
NEED IT, MY FAMILY NEED IT,
WHATEVER. THIS MIGHT CHANGE
THAT. SOME OF THE G LEAGUE

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IGNITE, EVERYBODY TRYING TO FIND
A DIFFERENT WAY TO TRAIN
ATHLETES. THE BEST WAY TO BECOME
A PRO BASKETBALL PLAYER IS STILL

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GOING THROUGH THE NCAA.
FOOTBALL, OBVIOUSLY. AND SO I
THINK FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THIS
MIGHT HELP TO KEEP ATHLETES IN

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SCHOOL LONGER, GET THEM MORE
EDUCATED AND BETTER TRAINED.
>> MIKE, FASCINATING INSIGHTS
FROM THE SPORTING NEWS, FOX AND

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THE BIG TEN NETWORK, WE