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>>GERRY: AS COVID-19 VACCINES
ROLL OUT IN INDIANA AND
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, A
CRITICAL QUESTION LOOMS: CAN

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VACCINATED PEOPLE STILL SPREAD
THE VIRUS?
A NATIONWIDE STUDY IS TAPPING
COLLEGE STUDENTS TO HELP ANSWER

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THAT QUESTION, AND INDIANA
UNIVERSITY IS THE ONLY COLLEGE
IN THE STATE TO BE PART OF THE
STUDY.

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BUSINESS OF HEALTH REPORTER
KYLIE VELETA HAS MORE.
>>KYLIE: BECAUSE COLLEGE
STUDENTS LIVE IN SUCH CLOSE

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QUARTERS, SCIENTISTS SAY THEY'RE
THE IDEAL GROUP TO ANSWER THE
QUESTION.
WHILE VACCINES PROTECT AGAINST

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SERIOUS SYMPTOMS, SCIENTISTS ARE
UNSURE IF THE VACCINATED PERSON
CAN SILENTLY SPREAD THE DISEASE
TO OTHERS.

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THE ANSWER WILL HAVE FAR
REACHING IMPLICATIONS, INCLUDING
WHEN EMPLOYERS COULD SAFELY
BRING THEIR WORKERS BACK TO THE

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OFFICE.
HERE TO TELL US MORE ABOUT THE
STUDY AND IU'S ROLE IS DR.
CHRISTINA LUDEMA, AN ASSISTANT

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PROFESSOR AT THE IU SCHOOL OF
PUBLIC HEALTH IN BLOOMINGTON.
THANKS FOR BEING ON THE SHOW
TODAY.

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>>: GLAD TO BE HERE.
>>: LET'S START WITH WHAT WE
DON'T KNOW AFTER YOU ARE
VACCINATED AND WHY THIS QUESTION

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IN PARTICULAR IS ESPECIALLY
IMPORTANT TO ANSWER.
>>: AS YOU HAVE JUST MENTIONED
THE RESEARCH IS STRONG ON COVID

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VACCINE TO PRESENT SERIOUS
DISEASE AND DEATH, WHICH IS
GREAT NEWS BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE
ARE VACCINATED IT TRANSLATES

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INTO FEWER HOSPITALIZATIONS AND
WE KNOW VACCINES PRESENT
PREVENTS ASYMPTOMATIC DISEASE
AND WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS

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VACCINATION ALSO PREVENTS SPREAD
AND CONTINUED SPREAD MEANS THE
PUSH TO GET EVERYONE AT HIGH
RISK FOR SERIOUS DISEASES EVEN

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MORE URGENT AND WE HAVE NEW
VARIANTS COMING INTO THE
PICTURE.
>>: YOU SAY COLLEGE CAMPUSES

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ARE GREAT PLACES TO DO THIS KIND
OF RESEARCH AND EXPLAIN WHY THAT
IS IN EXACTLY WHAT THEY WILL BE
DOING.

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>>: SO THERE ARE GREAT
POPULATION TO DO THIS RESEARCH
FOR THREE MAIN REASONS THEY LIVE
WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN DORMS OUR

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ROOMMATES AND SO THERE IS A HIGH
CONCENTRATION OF PEOPLE LIVING
TOGETHER AND THEY ARE
ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE PANDEMIC

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AND I'VE BEEN REALLY PLEASED
WITH THE RESPONSE TO THE
RESEARCH STUDY AND THIRDLY THEY
ARE TECH SAVVY SO A BUNCH OF THE

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COMPONENTS WE HAVE FOR
COLLECTION INVOLVED USING YOUR
CELL PHONE FOR THE SITUATION AND
IT WILL BE A SET UP AS THAT AS

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WELL SO IN TERMS OF WHAT THE
STUDENTS WILL BE DOING IN THE
TRIAL THEY WILL BE DOING DAILY
SWABS AND ANSWER THE SURVEY

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QUESTIONS WITHIN THE APP I WAS
JUST TALKING ABOUT.
>>: SO THE RESULT IN THE EARLY
FALL AND WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU

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WILL FIND?
>>: THE EXPECTATION IS THE
MODERNA VACCINE PREVENTS SPREAD
SO IN THE STUDY THAT CAN SHAPE

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THE FUTURE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
WHAT MIKE LOOKS LIKE.
>>: SO THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY
TO ENROLL ABOUT 500 STUDENTS

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TOTAL AND WHAT IS THE RESPONSE
BEEN LIKE SO FAR I KNOW IT IS
BRAND-NEW AND HOW MANY HAVE YOU
ENROLLED SO FAR.

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>>: WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED
WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF GREAT
ENTHUSIASM SO LOOKING FORWARD TO
MOVING ALONG.

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>>: AS YOU MENTIONED THIS STUDY
RELIES ON THE MODERNA VACCINE
AND IT'S USING THAT AND COULD
THE RESULTS TRANSLATE TO THE

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OTHER VACCINES?
>>: OUR EXPECTATION IS WITH
BOTH PFIZER AND MODERNA THEY
PERFORMED PRETTY SIMILARLY IN

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TERMS OF SPREAD SINCE THEY ARE
BOTH RNA VACCINES AND WE EXPECT
THE RESULTS FROM OUR TRIAL TO
APPLY TO THE PFIZER VACCINE AS

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WELL.
>>: HOW DO YOU THINK THIS STUDY
ALSO HELPS TRANSLATE TO
DECISIONS AND ALL OF US ARE

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MAKING ABOUT LIFE AFTER
VACCINATION.
ONE THING WE MENTIONED IS
EMPLOYER'S HOW DOES THIS HELP

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THEM DECIDE WHEN IT IS OKAY TO
BRING EMPLOYEES BACK TO THE
OFFICE?
>>: SO THE MAIN CONCERN WITH

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CONTINUED SPREAD OF COVID-19 IS
THAT AS I MENTIONED THERE WILL
BE TWO PIECES WITH THAT AND ONE
IS THE POTENTIAL FOR PEOPLE WHO

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REMAIN UNVACCINATED TO HAVE
SERIOUS DISEASE SO, FOR EXAMPLE,
FOR AN EMPLOYER YOU MIGHT HAVE A
PERSON IN YOUR OFFICE WHO CAN'T

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GET THE VACCINE FOR LEGITIMATE
HEALTH REASONS.
IF THAT IS THE CASE FOR MOST
VACCINES WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE

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POSSIBILITY OF HERD IMMUNITY
WHERE EVERYONE CAN GET
VACCINATED AND IT PROTECTS THE
PEOPLE IN THE POPULATION THAT

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CAN GET VACCINATED SO THOSE
PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AND ALSO SMALL
BABIES IN THAT CATEGORY CAN'T
GET VACCINES RIGHT AWAY WHEN

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THEY ARE SMALL SO WHEN WE THINK
ABOUT THE KINDS OF DECISIONS WE
CAN MAKE POST PANDEMIC DO YOU
WANT TO BRING SOMEONE BACK INTO

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THE OFFICE WHO HAS ONE OF THESE
HEALTH CONDITIONS AND CAN'T GET
VACCINATED IF EVERYONE IS
VACCINATED AND THE VISITING

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VACCINES TO PREVENT SPREAD DO
YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ASKING
THEM TO COME BACK IN AND WORK.
>>: JUST A FEW SECONDS LEFT,

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BUT EXPLAIN HOW IU HAS A REALLY
GREAT FRAMEWORK SET UP ALREADY
TO BE PART OF THIS STUDY AND I
THINK YOU SAID STUDENTS DON'T

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EVEN HAVE TO SEE ANOTHER HUMAN
BEING FOR THE STUDY EXCEPT FOR
LIKE ONE INTERACTION IN ALL OF
THIS IS DONE THROUGH THE

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FRAMEWORK YOU ALREADY HAVE SET
UP.
>>: EXACTLY SO THEY'VE BEEN
DOING A GREAT JOB WITH TESTING

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AND SET UP IN HAVE TESTED MANY
STUDENTS ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK
AND THAT FRAMEWORK IS MAKING IT
EASY TO ANSWER THE RESEARCH

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QUESTION STUDENTS ARE COMING IN
ON A REGULAR BASIS TO DO THE
TESTING.
SO IN COMBINATION WITH THE

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RESOURCES WE HAVE WE KNOW WE ARE
ASKING A LOT OF OUR STUDY
PARTICIPANTS, BUT NOT VERY MANY
IN PERSON INTERACTIONS AS YOU

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JUST MENTIONED.
>>: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
ON THE SHOW AND GOOD LUCK WITH
THE STUDY WE WILL FOLLOW-UP WITH