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>> AS THE NCAA'S MARCH MADNESS
PREPARES TO DESCEND UPON
INDIANAPOLIS AND INDIANA, SO TOO
DOES THE INDIANA HIGH SCHOOL

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ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION'S HOOSIER
HYSTERIA, THE BOYS' BASKETBALL
TOURNAMENT.
BILL BENNER HAS MORE IN THIS

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WEEK'S INSIDE INDIANA SPORTS.
BILL.
>>
GERRY, THANKS. AND THE

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COMBINATION OF MADNESS AND
HYSTERIA WILL CERTAINLY MAKE
INDIANA THE ONCE-AND-FOR-ALL
UNDISPUTED BASKETBALL CAPITAL OF

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THE UNIVERSE. YET EVEN AS THE
IHSAA PREPARES TO STAGE ITS
SHOWCASE TOURNAMENT, IT DOES SO
AMID PUBLISHED CHARGES OF

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OVERZEALOUSNESS IN THE
ADJUDICATION OF STUDENT-ATHLETES
WHO SEEK TO TRANSFER FROM ONE
SCHOOL TO ANOTHER.

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AND JOINING US TODAY TO DISCUSS
BOTH TOPICS IS THE IHSAA
COMMISSIONER, PAUL NEIDIG.
PAUL, THANKS FOR JOINING US.

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>> CERTAINLY MY PLEASURE TO JOIN
YOU GUYS HERE TODAY ON THIS
GREAT SHOW. GLAD TO BE WITH YOU,
BILL.

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>> PAUL, AGAIN, A HUGE MONTH
COMING UP WITH MARCH MADNESS
TAKING PLACE ENTIRELY IN THE
STATE OF INDIANA, AND OF COURSE,

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I KNOW YOU'VE MADE SOME SCHEDULE
ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BOYS STATE
BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT, INCLUDING
THE STATE FINALS. WHY DON'T YOU

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TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THAT?
>> CERTAINLY, WE'VE WORKED WITH
OUR PARTNERS IN THIS, THE
PACERS, AND THE FEVER, AND

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CERTAINLY HAD SOME COMMUNICATION
WITH THE NCAA, AND TO MAKE ALL
THIS FIT, IN INDIANA, WITH ALL
THE BASKETBALL GAMES WE HAVE

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NEXT MONTH. THERE WAS A LITTLE
BIT OF GIVE AND TAKE ON
EVERYBODY'S PART, AND OUR
PARTNERS CAME TO US AND ASKED IF

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WE COULD MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT IN
OUR BOYS BASKETBALL STATE
CHAMPIONS, WE WERE MORE THAN
WILLING TO DO THAT. BECAUSE WE

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FELT IT WAS SO IMPORTANT TO
CELEBRATE AT BANKERS LIFE
FIELDHOUSE WHERE WE ALWAYS DO.
WE MOVED THE BOYS BACK ONE WEEK

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SO WE'LL HAVE TWO WEEKS FOR OUR
TEAMS TO PREPARE, EIGHT TEAMS,
TWO WEEKS TO PREPARE FOR THE
STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME TO BE

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HELD AT BANKERS LIVE ON APRIL 3.
THE SCHEDULE HAS BEEN RELEASED,
WE WILL BE CONTESTING FOUR GAMES
ON THAT APRIL 3 DATE. THE TIME

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SCHEDULE STILL TO BE ANNOUNCED.
>> PAUL, IT'S BEEN A REMARKABLE
RUN, FALL CHAMPIONSHIPS,
WRAPPING UP BOYS SWIMMING, GIRLS

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SWIMMING. THE FACT THAT ALL THIS
HAS COME TOGETHER UNDER THE
UMBRELLA OF COVID AND THE
PANDEMIC HAS BEEN PRETTY

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REMARKABLE.
>> IT IS. YOU KNOW, I'M SO PROUD
OF THE WORK THAT OUR SCHOOLS
HAVE DONE. IF YOU GO BACK TO

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JULY 6 WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO
FINALLY GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH
OUR STUDENT ATHLETES AT THE
SCHOOL LEVEL, WE HAD A LOT OF

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WORK TO DO. BUT WE KNEW WE COULD
GET IT DONE. WE HAD A GREAT FALL
SEASON, CELEBRATE A STATE
CHAMPIONSHIPS, HERE WE ARE,

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WE'VE MOVED PAST CHRISTMAS,
WE'VE GONE ON TO THE SECOND HALF
OF THE YEAR. WE JUST FINISHED UP
GIRLS SWIMMING, WE FINISHED UP

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WRESTLING LAST WEEKEND, AND THIS
WEEKEND WE'RE GOING TO CONTEST
OUR BOYS SWIMMING STATE
CHAMPIONSHIP AT IUPUI, AND TEST

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THE GIRLS STATE BASKETBALL
CHAMPIONSHIP STARTING FRIDAY
NIGHT, WE'LL HAVE ONE CONTEST,
AND THEN THREE ON SATURDAY. AND

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WE'RE HERE, WE'RE GOING TO
CELEBRATE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS,
AND WE'RE GOING TO HANG WALNUT
ON THE WALL AT THEIR SCHOOLS

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WHEN DONE. JUST A TRIBUTE TO THE
PEOPLE IN OUR BUILDINGS AND
COMMUNITIES, AND FAMILIES, OF
THE WORK DONE TO GET US TO THIS

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POINT.
>> PAUL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS
ISSUE OF TRANSFERENCE. I WANT TO
SAY THAT THE QUESTION OF

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TRANSFERS HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE
COMPETITIVE ATHLETICS BEGAN,
WHETHER NCAA OR HIGH SCHOOL
LEVEL, AGAIN, A PUBLISHED REPORT

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THIS WEEK CRITICAL OF THE IHSAA
AND HOW IT HANDLES TRANSFER.
LET'S PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE,
YOU HAVE 160,000 SOME STUDENT

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ATHLETES COMPETING IN 22 IHSAA
SPORTS. VERY FEW THOSE WITH A
TRANSFER REACHED THE LEVEL OF
THE IHSAA HAVING TO RULE ONE WAY

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OR THE OTHER.
>> EXACTLY RIGHT. BY FAR, THE
TRANSFERS ARE HANDLED AT THE
SCHOOL'S PART. THE RECEIVING

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SCHOOL OR THE SCHOOL THAT
RECEIVES A NEW STUDENT, THEY
START THE TRANSFER PROCESS. IT'S
SENT TO THE SENDING SCHOOL, OR

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THE SCHOOL THAT THE STUDENT LEFT
FROM, AND IT'S REALLY HANDLED AT
THAT LEVEL. AND THE VAST
MAJORITY, WE PROCESS ON AN

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ANNUAL BASIS APPROXIMATELY 4,000
TRANSFERS A YEAR, LESS THAN 1%
OF THOSE END UP IN NO
ELIGIBILITY. THAT'S NOT

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SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE. WE HATE
THAT PART OF IT. THE REALITY IS
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH TRANSFER
INDEPENDENTLY AND WE GOT TO MAKE

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SURE EVERYBODY IS FOLLOWING THE
MEMBER RULES THAT ESTABLISH OUR
MEMBERSHIP. WE'RE HERE TO
PROVIDE OVERSIGHT TO THAT, AND

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BILL, I WOULD TELL YOU I'VE DONE
THIS QUITE A WHILE. WHILE THERE
IS ALWAYS HEARTACHE IN IT, I'VE
NOT HAD ANYBODY WALK IN THE

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DOORS HERE YET AND TELL ME THEY
TRANSFER FOR ATHLETIC REASONS.
THERE'S A PROCESS YOU HAVE TO GO
THROUGH THAT IS NOT EASY TO TRY

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TO GET TO THE TRUTH. THAT'S WHAT
WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE TRANSFER
PROCESS. IT WOULD BE EASY IF
EVERYBODY DID EVERYTHING ABOVE

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BOARD. THAT IS JUST NOT THE
CASE. WE HAVE TO INVESTIGATE AND
DO OUR BEST.
>> BASICALLY, JUST EXPLAIN,

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AGAIN, THIS IS A RULE PASSED BY
THE MEMBERSHIP, THE BASIS OF THE
RULE IS TO LEVEL THE PLAYING
FIELD, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT

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NOBODY'S TRYING TO GO OUT THERE
AND RECRUIT OTHER STUDENT
ATHLETES FROM SCHOOLS.
>> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. IF YOU

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LOOK AT A METROPOLITAN AREA SUCH
AS INDIANAPOLIS AREA, YOU KNOW,
THERE IS 44 SCHOOLS THAT A
FAMILY COULD REACH FROM ONE

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RESIDENCE. AND IF THERE WERE NO
TRANSFER RULES, WE WOULD HAVE A
BASKETBALL TEAMS OF THE MONTH,
AND WE WOULD HAVE A 1-A TEAM OF

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THE BEST PLAYERS IN
INDIANAPOLIS, 2-A -- A. I TALK
ABOUT A HIGH SCHOOL 20 MILES TO
THE NEXT SCHOOL. THOSE STUDENTS

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ARE RAISED IN THAT COMMUNITY,
STAY IN THAT COMMUNITY AND
TYPICALLY DON'T TRANSFER, THEY
HAVE TO HAVE THE DREAM OF

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WINNING THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP,
TO. TO PROTECT THAT DEEM WE HAVE
TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS DOING
THINGS ABOVE BOARDS. WE GOT

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COACHES ALWAYS LOOKING IN
SOMEBODY ELSE'S BACKYARD TO SEE
IF THEY CAN BRING KIDS INTO
THEIR PROGRAM. WHAT IS SAD ABOUT

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THAT, THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF
THE KIDS IN THEIR PROGRAM. AND
THE KID GETS DISPLACED, THAT
MEANS HE DOESN'T GET THE

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EXPERIENCE OF BEING A HIGH
SCHOOL ATHLETE IN THE STATE OF
INDIANA. WELL, PAUL, WE
CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING

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ON AND GIVING YOUR PERSPECTIVE
ON THE TRANSFER RULE, AND AGAIN,
WE ALL LOOK FORWARD TO A GREAT
COMBINATION OF HOOSIER HYSTERIA

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WITH MARCH MADNESS. A TIME LIKE
NONE WE'VE EVER SEEN IN INDIANA.
BEST WISHES GOING FORWARD,
THANKS FOR BEING ON THE SHOW.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BILL, WE
APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU
GUYS DO AND YOUR SHOW OF KEEPING
