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>> THE PICTURE IS COMING MUCH
MORE INTO FOCUS ON WHAT WILL BE
NEEDED TO MAKE SURE INDIANA'S
WORKFORCE WILL BE READY ONCE THE

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CRISIS IS OVER. MANY OF THE
JOBS THAT REQUIRED LITTLE
TRAINING BEYOND HIGH SCHOOL
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC ARE PROBABLY

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GONE FOR GOOD. SO, WHAT IS
NEEDED TO GIVE WORKERS THE
EDUCATION AND TRAINING NEEDED TO
MEET THE ECONOMIC DEMANDS OF

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TOMORROW?
FOR INSIGHT WE TURN TO VICE
PRESIDENT OF WORK AND LEARNING
AT THE LUMINA FOUNDATION, DR.

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CHAUNCY LENNON.
AND CHAUNCY, WELCOME TO THE
PROGRAM.
>> GREAT TO BE HERE.

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>> LET'S TALK ABOUT WORKFORCE
TALENT. IT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN AN
ISSUE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME
THROUGHOUT THE STATE HERE IN

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INDIANA. THAT'S GETTING THE
TALENT THAT'S NEEDED INTO
SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES. THE
PANDEMIC, I THINK YOU COULD

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ARGUE, IS REALLY SHINING A
LIGHT, EXTRA SHINY LIGHT, IF YOU
WILL, ON THAT CHALLENGE. WHAT
ARE THE CHALLENGES, CHAUNCY,

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THAT WE FACE AS A STATE WHEN IT
COMES TO TALENT AND GETTING THE
TRAINED WORKFORCE NEEDED FOR
BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY?

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>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
CERTAINLY TRUE THAT THE PANDEMIC
IS ACCELERATING THE TRENDS
YOU'VE BEEN SEEING. I THINK

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THOSE TRENDS REALLY POINT IN
THREE IMPORTANT DIRECTIONS ABOUT
WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE, WHAT
PEOPLE NEED TO DO DIFFERENTLY.

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THE FIRST IS THINKING ABOUT WHAT
WE NEED TO DO IN TERMS OF
PROVIDING EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS.
WE NEED MORE SHORT-TERM

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CREDENTIAL PROGRAMS, PROGRAMS
THAT ARE FLEXIBLE, AFFORDABLE,
AND REALLY TIED TO OCCUPATIONS,
THAT CAN RANGE FROM ANYTHING

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FROM SIX WEEKS TO 12 WEEKS TO
THREE MONTHS AND SOMETIMES EVEN
A YEAR. BUT THE POINT IS THAT
THERE IS SOMETHING YOU CAN GO

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AND PURSUE IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF
TIME. WE WILL SEE MORE OF THOSE.
WE NEED TO SEE EMPLOYERS HELP
THEIR WORKFORCE UNDERSTAND WHAT

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SKILLS. THEY HAVE TO KNOW IN
ADVANCE, THIS IS WHAT EMPLOYERS
ARE LOOKING FOR, WORKERS
THEMSELVES HAVE TO UNDERSTAND

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THE IMPORTANCE OF TRAINING POST
HIGH SCHOOL, THE VALUE OF
RETRAINING, BUT THAT'S GOING TO
INVOLVE SEEKING OUT INFORMATION,

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SEEKING OUT THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES, AND OTHER -- OFFERING
HIGH QUALITY PROGRAMS, AND
GETTING INTO THOSE PROGRAMS AND

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COMPLETING TOWARDS THE
CREDENTIAL.
>> I THINK, TWO, UNDERSCORES THE
IMPORTANCE OF NON-DEGREE

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CREDENTIALS, THE FOUR-YEAR
DEGREES ARE CERTAINLY IMPORTANT,
BUT THESE NON-DEGREE
CREDENTIALS, VERY IMPORTANT IN

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THE PROCESS.
>> I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
I THINK THE POINT TO KEEP IN
MIND IS THAT THAT'S TRUE BOTH

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FOR YOUNGER WORKERS, WE'RE
SEEING A TREND WHERE MANY PEOPLE
GETTING BAS OFTEN GET A
SHORT-TERM CREDENTIAL ON TOP OF

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THAT. AND ALSO OBVIOUSLY TRUE
FOR OLDER WORKERS WHO ARE
FINDING THEMSELVES WITHOUT A JOB
IN AN INDUSTRY THEY HAVE BEEN IN

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FOR YEARS. THEIR SKILLS ARE
MAYBE NO LONGER NEEDED IN THAT
INDUSTRY, BUT THEY'LL BE NEEDED
IN OTHER SECTORS, AND OFTEN THAT

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WILL ONLY HAVE -- WITH NEW
SKILLS. SHORT TERM CREDENTIALS
ARE THE TICKET FOR THOSE WHO
HAVE FOUND THEMSELVES STRANDED

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BY THE PANDEMIC.
>> I THINK IT IS INTERESTING
THAT THE LUMINA FOUNDATION WITH
SUPPORT OF THE KRESGE

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FOUNDATION, TOO, INVOLVED VERY
MUCH IN SO-CALLED TALENT HUBS.
TALK ABOUT THE CONCEPT, I KNOW
HERE IN INDIANA THERE ARE A

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NUMBER AROUND THE UNITED STATES,
ELKHART COUNTY, COLUMBUS, HAVE
TALENT HUBS. WHAT ARE THEY
ABOUT?

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>> THEY START FROM THE IDEA IT'S
HARD FOR ANY ONE OF THESE KEY
LEGS OF THE STOOL TO DO THIS ALL
ON THEIR OWN. WE NEED GOVERNMENT

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WORKING WITH EMPLOYERS WORKING
WITH THE EDUCATION TRAINING
PROVIDERS AND COMMUNITY COLLEGES
TO MAKE THIS ALL HAPPEN. WE NEED

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GREATER COORDINATION AND
ALIGNMENT, SO YOU REALLY NEED A
COMMUNITY-WIDE EFFORT TO GET ALL
THESE PIECES WORKING TOGETHER.

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THIS INVOLVES IDENTIFYING THE
KEY SECTORS AND KEY OCCUPATIONS,
THIS INVOLVES THE EMPLOYERS
THINKING ABOUT HOW THEY CAN

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STRUCTURE THE WORKPLACE, AND
COMMUNICATING WITH THE COMMUNITY
COLLEGES AND OTHERS TO MAKE SURE
THE CREDENTIALS REALLY ALIGN

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WITH WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
FINALLY, WE GOT TO GET THE
MESSAGE OUT, ALL THE WORKERS,
YOUNG, OLD, NEED TO UNDERSTAND

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THESE ARE THE -- OF THE ECONOMY
THAT ARE GROWING, THESE ARE THE
JOB OPPORTUNITIES, THESE AREN'T
NECESSARILY JOBS THAT REQUIRE A

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FOUR-YEAR DEGREE, YOU MAY WANT
TO GET ONE AS TIME GOES ON, BUT
THERE'S LOTS OF GREAT
OPPORTUNITIES TODAY FOR PEOPLE

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TO HAVE, TRAINING POST HIGH
SCHOOL, BUT NOT NECESSARILY BA.
WE GOT TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT
TO EVERYBODY. WE GOT TO SHOW

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PEOPLE THE STEPS THEY CAN TAKE
TO GET THERE.
>> GREAT PERSPECTIVE FROM
DR. CHAUNCY LENNON. THANK YOU

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FOR JOINING US, AND THE GREAT