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>>GERRY: HELLO AND WELCOME TO
INSIDE INDIANA BUSINESS.
I'M GERRY DICK.
THE HOUSING INVENTORY AROUND

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INDIANA HAS BEEN TIGHT,
ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE MOST
AFFORDABLE PRICE POINTS AND
BUYERS HAVE BEEN FORCED TO PAY

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ABOVE LIST, IN SOME CASES THE
RESULT HAS BEEN A BIDDING WAR.
BUYERS ARE WONDERING "WHY ARE WE
HAVING TO PAY ABOVE LIST PRICE,

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AND HOW LONG WILL IT CONTINUE?"
FOR SOME INSIGHT, I'M PLEASED TO
WELCOME BACK TO THE SHOW
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOMESERVICES

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INDIANA REALTY BROKER GREG
COOPER.
WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.
>> GREAT TO BE HERE.

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>> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
THIS FOR A LONG TIME BACK TO
16-17 AND STILL OUT THIS.
>> REALLY IT BEGAN BACK DURING

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THE CRASH.
ON FEBRUARY 27, 2009, THE
LONGEST HOMEBUILDER THE STATE OF
INDIANA CEASED OPERATIONS SO

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THEY HAD BUILT TENS OF THOUSANDS
OF HOMES IN INDIANA OVER THE
PREVIOUS DECADE GIVE OR TAKE AND
ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE GONE.

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THAT WAS HIGHLY IMPACTFUL, BUT
THE NET EFFECT OVER THE LAST
10-11 YEARS AS WE ARE WAY DOWN
ON THE NUMBER OF HOMES FOR

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AVAILABLE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BUY
THEM.
>> IT HAS NOT GOTTEN A LOT
BETTER THIS LAST COUPLE OF

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YEARS.
>> IT'S WORSE PROGRESSIVELY AND
IT'S NOT A HUGE JUMP, BUT IT
FEELS LIKE IT WHEN YOU ARE

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TRYING TO BUY YOUR FIRST HOME
AND SIX OTHER PEOPLE ARE
THROWING A BUNCH OF MONEY AT THE
SAME HOUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO

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MOVE INTO.
>> WE TALK ABOUT BIDDING WARS
HOW CRAZY IS THAT?
>> YOU MIGHT HAVE A 225-

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225-250,000-DOLLAR HOME AND IF
IT'S REALLY A CHEERY YOU MIGHT
HAVE A HALF-DOZEN PEOPLE YOU ARE
BIDDING AGAINST AND FOUR OR

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5 PERCENT ABOVE THE LIST PRICE
BY THE CHANCE YOU GET TO BUY IT.
THAT IS STILL CHALLENGING.
>> THIS IS VERY MUCH A STATEWIDE

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NOT JUST IN CENTRAL INDIANA, BUT
ALL OVER.
>> IF YOU HAVE A CRAFTSMAN DOLL
HOUSE THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO

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WANTS IT JUST AS BAD AS YOU DO.
>> AS YOU LOOK AT OTHER FACTORS
AS WE HEAD TOWARD THE END OF THE
YEAR WHAT SHOULD PROSPECTIVE

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HOME BUYERS AND SELLERS, WHAT
SHOULD THEY THINK?
>> THEY NEED TO KNOW THERE WILL
BE A BETTER TIME DURING THE YEAR

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WHEN THEY CAN APPROACH BUYING.
NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO BUY IN
NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER BUT TH
TRUTH IS YOU HAVE LESS

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COMPETITION WHEN YOU GET INTO
THOSE TWO MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
WE KNOW FROM THE CURRENT DATA
WE'VE HAD AND IT'S HOT OFF THE

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PRESSES WE WILL PROBABLY START
2020 AND A SIMILAR FASHION THE
WAY WE STARTED 2019.
>> LOOKING AHEAD TO NEXT YEAR

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BASED ON THESE DYNAMICS AND SOME
NUMBERS FROM THE REALTORS
ASSOCIATION YOU LOOK AT 2020 OF
THESE STARTING UP THE SAME.

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>> OUR FRIENDS HAVE GOTTEN SOME
GREAT DATA AND WE ARE DOWN
7 PERCENT APPROXIMATELY FOR THE
YEAR IN SALES.

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MOST PEOPLE CAN'T BELIEVE THAT
AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE
DOWN ABOUT 7 PERCENT
YEAR-TO-YEAR, 18-19 IN NEW

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LISTINGS WHICH TELLS US IN THE
CRYSTAL BALL WHAT 2020 WILL
START OUT LIKE.
>> DO YOU SENSE ANY IMPROVEMENT.

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WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE NEW HOME
MARKET AND DO CONSTRUCTION
MARKET HAS BEEN TOUGH.
ANY IMPROVEMENT?

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>> WE HAVE GREAT HOMEBUILDERS
WHO ARE TRYING TO KEEP UP, BUT
WE ARE IN A CAUTIONARY PLACE
BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED

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AND THEY HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN OR
HAVE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE
BUSINESS REGULARLY HAVE
FORGOTTEN.

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THERE IS A SECONDARY THING SO
THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS HOME
SELLERS WHO WANT TO MOVE ARE
AFRAID TO PUT THEIR HOMES ON THE

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MARKET BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT
NOWHERE TO GO AND THAT'S ANOTHER
PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPROBABLE AND ALL
OF THIS THAT MAKES IT

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CHALLENGING FOR THE INVENTORY TO
IMPROVE.
>> FINAL QUESTION ANY CRYSTAL
BALL ON MORTGAGE RATES AND WHERE

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YOU SEE THOSE GOING NEXT YEAR IS
A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR.
>> THAT'S A WILD CARD AND
PROBABLY NOT UNTIL WE GET

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THROUGH THE FIRST QUARTER NEXT
YEAR BUT THE REALITY IS RIGHT
NOW WHERE WE SIT BARRING
GEOPOLITICAL THINGS WE WILL HAVE

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SOME CONSISTENCY WITH A LITTLE
BIT OF A FLUCTUATION DEPENDING
ON CREDIT SCORES IN THE LATE
FORCE AND THE UPPER THREE IS AN

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INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BOTH.
