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UNIVERSITY LOYOLA INDIANA 

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ASSOCIATION REALTORS 

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>> I WANT TO WELCOME INSIDE 

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INDIANA BUSINESS I'M GARY DAN 

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IT IS AN IDEA THAT IS SPARKING 

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CONVERSATION AND CONTROVERSY 

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STATEWIDE MAKING INTERSTATE 70 

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A TOLL ROADS ACROSS THE STATE 

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LAST YEAR THE INDIANA 

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DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION 

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FILED AN APPLICATION WITH THE 

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FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SEEKING 

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APPROVAL FOR TOLLING ON I-70 

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IT'S AN IDEA EMBRACED BY THE 

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BRAUN ADMINISTRATION AS A 

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MEANS TO GENERATE BILLIONS OF 

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DOLLARS TO REBUILD ONE OF THE 

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STATE'S MOST IMPORTANT THAN 

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BUSIEST EAST-WEST CORRIDORS 

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SUPPORTERS LIKE TERRE HAUTE 

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MAYOR BRANDON SAKBUN SAY 

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IMPROVEMENTS ON 70 COULD COULD 

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REALLY PROVIDE LONG-TERM 

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FUNDING SOLUTION FOR A 

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CRITICAL FREIGHT AND COMMUTER 

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ROUTE 

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>> FOR ALL OF WEST-CENTRAL 

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INDIANA I-70 IS THAT MAIN 

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THOROUGHFARE SO FROM AN 

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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 

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PERSPECTIVE IT IS VERY 

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IMPORTANT FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY 

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PERSPECTIVE IT IS VERY 

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IMPORTANT I KNOW A LOT OF 

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RESIDENTS WHO TRAVEL TO AND 

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FROM THE INDIANAPOLIS AREA 

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EVEN OUR SCHOOL CORPORATION IS 

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ACKNOWLEDGE SEVERE PUBLIC 

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SAFETY CONCERNS 

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>> CRITICS THOUGH I WORRY 

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ABOUT THE COST TO DRIVERS AND 

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THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON 

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COMMUNITIES LET'S TAKE A 

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CLOSER LOOK NOW AT THE TOLLING 

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ISSUE AND WHAT IT COULD MEAN 

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IN INDIANA WITH DANVILLE 

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DUNCAN IS AN ASSOCIATE 

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PROFESSOR AT THE O'NEILL 

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SCHOOL OF PUBLIC AND 

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ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS AT 

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INDIANA UNIVERSITY DENTAL 

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GREAT TO SEE YOU THANK YOU FOR 

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HAVING ME OKAY WHY ARE WE THIS 

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TOLLING 

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>> MAIN POINT ARGUES THE MAIN 

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REASON WE'RE HERE HAS TO DO 

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WITH SHORTAGE OF REVENUES SO 

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WROTE INFRASTRUCTURE ACROSS 

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THE COUNTRY'S FINANCE 

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PRIMARILY THROUGH FUEL TAXES 

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BUT THE BASE OF THE FUEL TAXES 

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THE AMOUNT OF FUEL CONSUMED 

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AND AS VEHICLES BECOME MORE 

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FUEL EFFICIENT AS WE 

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TRANSITION AWAY FROM INTERNAL 

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COMBUSTION VEHICLES TO BATTERY 

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ELECTRIC VEHICLES THE BASE OF 

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THAT TAX IS ERODING SO THAT'S 

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GOING TO MEAN ONE OF THE MAIN 

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CHALLENGES SO DOES MATTER WITH 

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THE TAX RATE IS IF YOU'RE 

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TEXTING A SMALLER BASE YOU 

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HAVE LESS REVENUES THE SECOND 

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PROBLEM NORTHEAST SECOND 

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FACTOR IS THAT TAX RATES HAVE 

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NOT BEEN KEEPING UP WITH THIS 

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DECLINE IN THE TECH SPACE AND 

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SO THERE ARE STATES THAT HAVE 

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ADJUSTED RATES OVER TIME 

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INDIANA BE ONE OF THEM BUT IF 

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YOU LOOK LONG TERM RATES HAVE 

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NOT KEPT PACE AND THEN THE 3RD 

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FACTOR IS COST AND SO THE COST 

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OF CONSTRUCTING MAINTAINING 

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ROADWAYS HAS GONE UP AND IF 

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THE TAX BASE IS REMAINING KIND 

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OF FLAT AS I MENTIONED THE 

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AMOUNT YOU CAN BUY WITH THE 

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REVENUES GENERATED JUST KEEPS 

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GOING DOWN THOSE 3 FACTORS 

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COULD DRIVE THE NEED FOR 

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THINKING ABOUT ALTERNATIVES 

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ARE LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT 

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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE 

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THE BRAUN ADMINISTRATION SEES 

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TOLLING AS A MEANS TO 

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IMPROVING 

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>> I-70 WIDENING TO 3 LANES OF 

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I-SEVENTY THAT IMPORTANT 

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INTERSTATE COST ESTIMATED NOW 

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PRESENT TERMS MAYBE 6 AND A 

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HALF BILLION DOLLARS PASSENGER 

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VEHICLES POTENTIALLY COULD BE 

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PAYING AT $15.60 

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>> BORDER TO BORDER PER MILE 

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TO A OVERALL COSTS $15 

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>> AND $0.60 TO TRAVEL THE 

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DISTANCE TOUCHY ISSUE AND THE 

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REACTION FROM CONSUMERS SO I 

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THINK ONE OF THE POTENTIAL 

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CONCERNS HERE IS YOU KNOW FOR 

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A CAR GOING EAST TO WEST 

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RUFFED A $16 FOR A LITTLE BIT 

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OVER INTO DOLLARS AND IN 

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ADDITION TO THE FUEL TAX 

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ALREADY BEING PAID SO YOU KNOW 

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SOMEONE MIGHT BE CONCERNED 

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THAT YOU'RE ASKED TO PAY MORE 

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THAN YOU ARE TOO MANY WERE 

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PAYING BEFORE AND THIS MIGHT 

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RAISE SOME CONCERNS BOTH ON 

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THE ECONOMIC SIDE EFFICIENCY 

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AS WELL AS FAIRNESS TALK 

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BRANDON SAKBUN THE MAYOR IN 

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TERRE HAUTE HE'S SUPPORTIVE OF 

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IMPROVEMENTS ON I-70 

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>> BUT HE ADMITS HE SAID YOU 

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KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE 

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NUMBER OF PEOPLE MAY DIVERT 

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AWAY FROM THE TOLL ROAD 2 

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SMALLER LESS OR ROADSIDE ROADS 

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AND THAT PRESENTS A CONCERN TO 

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HIM HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY 

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>> I'M THINKING ABOUT 40 I'M 

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THINKING ABOUT SOME CITY 

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STREETS EVEN POPLAR STREET FOR 

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EXAMPLE AND SO NOW IT'S OK HOW 

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CAN WE WORK WITH THE 

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ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE FUNDS 

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AVAILABLE HOPEFULLY THROUGH 

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TELLING TO FIX THOSE BECAUSE 

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IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC 

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COMING OFF OF I-70 ON THE 

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STREETS WITHIN THE CITY OF 

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TERRE HAUTE LOCAL TAXPAYERS 

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HAVE TO FOOT THAT BILL TO 

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MAINTAIN THAT STREET AND WE'RE 

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TRYING TO ALLEVIATE THAT SO A 

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LOT FACTORS TO CONSIDER THE 

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>> THE UPKEEP OF OTHER ROADS 

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IN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS YEAH 

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SO WHAT HE'S GETTING AT THERE 

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IS THE FACT THAT AS YOU AS IT 

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COSTS MORE TO DRIVE PEOPLE 

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LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVES RIGHT 

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AND SO THE MAIN ALTERNATIVE TO 

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I-SEVENTY IS STATE ROAD 40 

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HIGHWAY 40 AND VEHICLE GETS 

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REDIRECTED ORTIZ SAYS DRIVERS 

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LOOK FOR OPTIONS THAT 

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INCREASES THE VOLUME OF 

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TRAFFIC ON THOSE ROADWAYS 

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WHICH MEANS MORE CONGESTION 

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THE CHANCES FOR ACCIDENTS AND 

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THE ASSOCIATED COSTS YOU KNOW 

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TEND TO GO UP SO IT'S A REAL 

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CONCERN TO THINK ABOUT YOU 

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KNOW HOW WE MAINTAIN THESE 

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SIDE ROADS AS PEOPLE TRY TO 

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THINK ABOUT HOW TO REDUCE THE 

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COST OF GOING EAST WEST OR 

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WEST TO LOTS TO THINK ABOUT ON 

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THIS ISSUE TO BE SURE DENVILLE 

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DUNCAN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR AT 

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THE O'NEILL SCHOOL OF PUBLIC 

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AND ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS AT 

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